The Lie of Wellness & The Myth of Freedom

Hey, one more Thing before you go. What if the systems we trust, healthcare, education, even our economy, aren't designed to heal or empower us, but to keep us asleep?What if true freedom isn't found in rebellion, but in reclaiming authorship of our soul and society? In this week's episode of One More Thing before you go, I sit down with Aaron Scott.He's a former Wall street insider turned consciousness guide and host of the Evolved podcast, a brilliant podcast. You need to listen to it.With nearly two decades of experience in global finance, Aaron now uses his lens to expose the hidden architecture behind modern life, from the illusion of wellness to the industrial shaping of identity. Stay tuned. We're going to answer these questions and more. I'm your host, Michael Hirsch. Welcome to One more Thing before you go.I'm really excited about this episode because in it, we're going to journey beyond the surface into the hidden architecture of modern life. I know that we all want to think about it. We all want to delve into it. We each want to explore it.And we're going to explore how ancient wisdom, metaphysics, and real world systems intertwine, because I think it's integral to how we are acting today. They form the invisible scaffolding of our beliefs, but these aren't just ideas. They're the forces shaping our identity, our health, and our freedom.This isn't a conversation about what's broken. It's a reckoning, a remembering, a call to reclaim what's sacred. We confront the myth of freedom in a system built on illusion.How healthcare capitalism hijacked the very meaning of healing, that's a little personal to me. The industrial design of identity and the emotional cost and the spiritual and psychological toll of systematic indoctrination.So settle in, open your mind and join us for this conversation. Aaron, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me. Michael, excited to be here.

What it's been a journey. What a journey. You have.

Some good, some bad, but that's what this is about, right?

It is.

It's about the journey.

It's about the journey. Exactly. And how we react to that journey. I think because, you know, we have a choice in how do we react to that journey and how we participate in it.So I really, you know, thank you for joining us and I appreciate your journey and how. How we got you to hear. I. I would like to start at the beginning if I can. Where'd you grow up?

I grew up outside of Boston, Massachusetts. I've been in New York for how long? About 20 years now. It's actually interesting, I think.What's the, what's the rule if you're, if you live somewhere for 10 years, you're, I think so over that identity. Yeah. So now I guess I'm in New Yorker now. So you're a New Yorker now. All right.Although being from Boston is not, it's not an easy identity to swallow say that much.

Well, you lost your Boston accent.

I really had one for some shared reason.

That's okay, too. That's okay too. The. Had you always wanted to work on Wall Street. What got you into that?Did you, you, you as a child, would you want to be when you grow up?

I don't even remember what I wanted to be, per se, but I know that. And yeah, this is kind of like part and parcel to, you know, I think what we'll talk about.But, you know, you kind of, you kind of go through a quote unquote education system. You're in college, you got to get a job.You're looking to, you know, I think most of us kind of focused on financial, you know, financial security, financial freedom, certainly finances at the forefront. Right. And I kind of said to myself, you know, I want to work on Wall Street. I'm interested in the markets. I know that I can make money there.And let's give it a shot, see what happens. Right. So I started as, as an analyst at a large bank. I actually, I founded my own hedge fund, my own hedge fund a few years ago.So I've kind of, you know, I've really been through the system. I know I'll be more about global finance, corporate finance than I, I'd like to.But yeah, it's been, it's, it's been quite, quite a professional education, for sure.

I would think so.Especially, I mean, today it's going to be driving you kind of a little bit crazy with what's happening today in global finance as well here in the United States. So many ifs, ands and buts and what ifs and what's going to happen and what's not going to happen.I think that that's got to be kind of frustrating, at least from your perspective as a professional.

Yeah, I think the current economic landscape is. I think it's emblematic of the sort of structure that we, that we're operating under.I think that I think that there are so many factors at play on a macro level that it's difficult to kind of, in my opinion, just kind of like feel stable there. There are. However, I should say that, you know, we as you're aware we, we operate in this kind of like a inflationary regime, if you will.So if the market sells off a decent amount, you know, you just kind of buy and you. And you know that the system kind of has your back. So it's that. That's the prevailing, you know, tailwind, if you will.

Well, I think, I think that, you know, we all, obviously, we all want a financial future. We all want, I think life in particular, we want to be stable in everything, in every part of it.We want to be healthy, we want to be financially stable. We want to be happy in our relationships. We all try to balance that.We all want the mind, body, soul connection, where that all applies to the current situations we're in, as well as our work life, our personal life and our play life. I think that you have a unique perspective in regard to that.I want to, if we can, I would like to explore the concept of, well, what if the systems that we're in aren't broken or are they broken?

Yeah, look, you know, I think that to. It's obviously a big question, but what I'll. Look, what I will tell you is that, yes, they are inherently broken.They are inherently fragmented, and there's many, there's kind of many ways to skin the cat with that.I, I will tell you that what I realized early on in my career was that it were to kind of excel in the industry, I had to, in many ways, like, sever a part of myself. I didn't really, I couldn't really identify what it was at the time, but I knew that I had to. There were concessions that had to be made. Right.And kind of as I, you know, kept grinding and kept working, kept focusing and, you know, it kind of like took a real toll. I mean, it's. It's Wall Street's kind of glamor, as I think at times, but it's, you know, it's really like, it's long hours.It's, you know, staring in front of. At least for me, it was, you know, staring in front of six screens all day for, you know, 12 hours, 14 hours a day.And it really, it really erodes kind of part of it. I don't think that it's unique to Wall Street. I think. I think that it's across kind of the spectrum. Right.I think that people in, you know, within the current systems that we. We inhabit, I think that they can sympathize with that, empathize with that. I think that they experience it as well.You know, people are working Crazy hours. The financial reward isn't always there, and they feel it too. And I think that what.I think that what you find is that en masse, there is a sense of something being off, right. Oftentimes what we do is we point to a leader, a system, a institution, and we say, it's their fault or it's the rich guy's fault. It's this and that.But the true story is a little bit different. Now, certainly there are, you know, corporations, individuals who take advantage of the system, who, you know, who wield power in sort of ways.I think, you know, I think that when you're indoctrinated in the system that anybody really would. Right. They're looking to maintain power, retain power, make more money, expand their network, whatever it might be. Right.It's just kind of, again, part of the kind of consciousness, if you will. And really, a lot of what I.What I look at is understanding the origin stories of a lot of these sacred systems that we kind of grow up into and don't question and kind of say, okay, well, you know, gotta strap my boots on. This is how it works. This is the deal. This is what we're kind of born into. And, like, this is just life. This is just the way it is.In truth, that's not really the case.And like any system, any institution, any kind of external structure, again, they, you know, they embody our consciousness and we embody its consciousness, which hope kind of makes sense, but there's a reciprocity there. And, you know, we as a human civilization or society, we create. We create these models, we create these systems, we create this infrastructure.And what you find is that when you kind of peel back the layers, there was an interesting kind of situation that took form with respect to our current institutions. We can talk about them. Government, education, we can drill down on the systems. Capitalism, socialism.But when you look kind of at the foundation of these systems is where you kind of. You kind of find the real meat of the story.And what's remarkable is that a lot of the story is tied to institutional religion and kind of some of the modern ages of kind of the modern age of enlightenment and rationalism that kind of, you know, are the backbone of the way we structure. Economy, structure, government structure, democracy, structure, all sorts of things. We have really inherited these kind of rationalist ideologies.So I can stop there and dive a little bit deeper if you want, but you kind of tell me if you'd like me to.

Well, I think that from my own understanding is they're Kind of designed to function the way that they're. That they're functioning at the moment.

Oh, they're operating extremely. They're operating extremely well. Which. Which runs in contrast to the way that we operate, actually. Right. So. So I'll kind of.I'll kind of keep going here and I'll. But also back up. So, you know, when I kind of. When I've been on this journey for maybe like for a couple of decades, which is kind of crazy when.When I think about it, when I look back on it, but I've always had kind of this kind of like, thirst for curiosity. I was a philosophy economic theory major, and I always kind of wanted to understand, like, what was the underlying consciousness? Why.Why were these our values? What happened? What structured things? Why were these systems put in place?I don't necessarily know why that was the case, but I've always had this kind of curiosity, right?And what you find is that there was this disconnection between a lot of kind of ancient sacred knowledge and, you know, our current modern state of existence, if you will. And there are a lot of, you know, univers. There are universal laws that, you know, make up the universe.So, for example, you know, the universe operates through polarity, you know, light from darkness, male and female creation. Inhale, exhale. This is the. This is really the bread and butter of the way the universe operates. Right, Yin and yang. Exactly. And, you know, we are.Whether kind of people understand this or not, but, you know, we are con. We are all connected.There is this underlying interconnection, and we operate under this illusion of separateness where we are separate from other people, we are separate from nature, we are separate from the fabric of the universe. But in truth, you know, we're really all connected. This is, you know, easily understood when you look at just, you know, pure facts.We have things called mirror neurons in our brains that allow us to experience emotions with other people. You know, somebody gets hit, we wince. Baby see somebody else crying, the baby cries. I mean, there's this really kind of embedded connection.We can, in this kind of. We can go deeper on that, but this transcends into our relationship with the, you know, the natural world.We, again, we inhale oxygen, we expel carbon dioxide. Ecosystems.There are, you know, trees have these massive connections underneath the ground through, you know, fungi that, you know, kind of, if one tree doesn't have enough, another, you know, tree helps them out. So physics is showing this how, you know, the foundational structure of our reality isn't matter.It's it's, you know, the, the quantum realm, it's consciousness. So all of these things are kind of not well known, but this is, this is the nature of our reality, right?So if what has happened is, you know, we again inhabit this, this body, this unique form. We are the universe experiencing itself in our unique form. Everybody has their own experience, right? And we contribute to this consciousness.We contribute to the ideology of society. You know, the way that we elect to manage, you know, to manage a company, to run a country echoes into, you know, the, the round. Right?And this isn't, this isn't like mystical or woo woo. This is just how it is. We, we see its results in the world around us, right? If a video goes viral, if a new story comes out, people are impacted.I think of it kind of that way for people who, you know, are kind of saying, what is this guy? Right?So part of us is, goes back to this polarity and we operate best and we operate kind of in alignment when we are balanced, when this, when these polar forces are balanced. So, you know, we've created institutions and structures that, and this isn't about, this isn't necessarily about like a sinister construction.This is just the result of them. Right.

It's our modern systems, our modern, today's, our modern systems, I think they've shaped our identities unconsciously that we just kind of go with the float.

Exactly.And, and we live in, you know, people say, oh, it's a man's world, but we live, we live in this hyper masculine overextension of what's called the masculine force, where, you know, we're kind of like sacred masculinity with respect to, you know, feminine energy, if you will, sacred feminine, which is kind of how a lot of the metaphysical, kind of spiritual, you know, people in that space understand these, these concepts.But it doesn't have to be kind of something that could be understood on, you know, biological level on a, again, across many different kind of planes of understanding.But when that hilarity is thrown out of whack and it's been, and when it's thrown out of whack with such a degree that it is kind of today where you have these, you know, again, these institutions that we have to really kind of, you know, mold ourselves to, that we have to shape our own constitution, our own identity around it perpetuates and it pushes this imbalance. And we see it with our health, with our mental health, with our physical health.We have created entire economies that don't nourish us from the Food industry.We have industrialized the entire agricultural business, where we create these GMO products that are stripped of nutrients that are good for business, but they're not good for the individual. We, you know, we have. Our education system is really kind of a. Is really a construct to create, you know, obedient, docile factory workers.That was the original kind of Prussian model that it was structured around. So all of these kind of. All of these systems are really focused around capital and efficiency and productivity.And here we are, you know, we are not a robot. We're forced to contort ourselves, to perform in these systems and what that is.

Yeah, I'm sorry, would you agree that. I didn't mean to interrupt you. Just a thought. Hit me.Would you think, by what you just described, do you think we live a life designed by industry rather than intention?

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. We live a life, um. We live a life that is governed primarily by capital, by money. And the, And.And the, you know, the structures that accommodate this money are, Are our institutions, which have been, you know, our sacred institutions. All of them have been wholeheartedly corrupted by. By special interests, by money, by corporations. This is well known, right?It's coming to the forefront now in many different ways. But it's. It's one thing to kind of understand it. It's another thing to. To digest and fully see how it's impacting us, right, On. On a.On a deeper level. And people don't necessarily see it or understand how it does, but it shapes everything. You know, not just doesn't have.It doesn't have an impact or the environment, but it shapes our identity. It shapes the way that we look at ourselves when we're. We're raised in these education systems.You know, we are taught that, you know, we are taught good versus bad, right versus wrong. We're graded. You know, failing is bad. We. We consume information. We don't question anything. You know, we consume beliefs. No question, right?So there's this. This kind of performative identity that is, that. That takes place. And like I said when I was in college, and I'm looking to come out right, I. My.I had to kind of, again, shift my focus on how I would live my life based on my job, based on how I could market myself, based on how I could perform, right?This is very different from a sort of balanced approach where, where you're doing something that you really, really enjoy and then entering into the workforce and then entering into the economy. So right away, right, we embrace this schism. We embrace this imbalance and, and it, it's, it's shown its effects and people feel it.And it's my belief what we're experiencing now in this kind of age of awakening and this evolution of consciousness is there will need to be a fundamental shift with respect to our institutions and our systems that accommodate the human being.And oh, by the way, with the advent of artificial intelligence under its current paradigm and framework, it's, it's actually, you know, an opposing force. I mean we are, you know, industry and capital have been trying to kind of in many ways make us into these robots.But you know, this is what's going to be in the, in the future, right? People will be replaced and all of these kind of dystopian ideals. But in many ways it's going to be true.This, this lie that like, oh, AI is going to make our lives better. Like, sure, it's a byproduct of it, but it's not really what the development is about.It's not, it's not what the core motivation behind its cultivation is. Motivation is to sustain industry, to bulk up defense, to increase efficiency at multinational corporations.So it's about, you know, it's about the, to back it up.You know, the universe again operates on balance and polarity and when something has been pushed so far to one side, oh, you know, this idea of karma, it's going to snap back. So it's about how the universe rebalances and it will rebalance, you know, in any way through us. Right?We are a conduit of this, of this kind of sacred energy and force.And just very quickly, because I've been saying a lot but you know, for those people who, you know, may not be kind of in, in tutor and touch with a lot of this stuff that I'm talking about, you know, this is, this knowledge has been part and parcel, you know, well known for millennia. It's been suppressed. But yeah, but in, you know, I've been a part of, I've been a part of secret societies.I've been, you know, it's, it's only kind of woo woo if you're not aware, if that makes sense. It's like.

No, I agree with that.

So esoteric, let's put it that way.

Yeah, I, I mean I can agree with it a thousand percent actually. I'd learned a long time ago a little more about, and we're going to get into some health, the health segment here in a second.But even with, through my own journey, I got injured in the line of duty. I was told Babe, I'd be in a wheelchair for the rest of my life. And then they were trying to get me set up to be that way.I chose a different pathway.And through a lot of hard work and diligence and a lot of mind, body, soul, connection, connecting with the universe, connecting with mother nature, realizing that I don't have to listen to the medical community and sit in the wheelchair for four years like I did, I walked my daughter down the aisle and I walk in the last year, 1.6 million steps in the last year kind of a thing, you know, which, which gave me a better, a different outlook on life and how we are supposed to fall under these norms and fall under these guidelines. Covid was a double edged sword. Covid allowed my wife to work from home for two straight years where she worked from home.And instead of fighting traffic every morning for an hour and wondering whether or not she was going to get in the one of a billion accidents out there, showing up to work frustrated and angry, sitting in a cubicle for eight hours and then doing the same hour trip home, she got to, we got to get up, we went on the back patio, we had a cup of tea, we watched the hummingbirds go to the tree to trade at the bushes. We saw that, you know, the birds in the yard would be making noise.And we came to realize that the opportunity for work life balance we shouldn't have to put up with. You're going to come in, you're going to put nine hours into work.You're going to be driving an hour to and an hour from, which means you have to put gas in your car, there's more gas and wear and tear on your cars. You're going to get those repairs, the whole gamut in regard to that where she now works a hybrid schedule.And you'll notice that the majority of corporations kept going, why can't we get back to normal? Quote normal. Back to normal. They want everybody back in the office because they had more control over them when they were in the office.And I think, you know, people started realizing there's more to life and there's more.

Covid was a big, kind of, was a big event from, from a global kind of consciousness perspective. Sure, absolutely. People, people were able to. And it, it was just by virtue of the fact that people were able to. To slow down a little bit. To stop.

Yes, yes, yes.

So to detach and I mean, forget about what happened from a, you know, a policy level or I mean it's a whole different discussion that I think that Sparked a lot of other. Have conversation.But yeah, I mean, in that, at that time, I mean, what, what a different kind of world in many ways, if it weren't impacted health wise. It was, it was kind of like a utopian experience. Yeah.

I mean it really, it opened your eyes to the fact that, wow, there is more to life than just going to work and sitting there and toiling away for somebody else, you know, eight, nine hours a day and then fighting traffic. There's more to life than that. And it gave us a reset. And I think Mother Nature is doing the same thing. I think Mother Nature's bad.Between the earthquakes and the fires, the earthquakes, the tsunamis, the volcanoes erupting, you, Ted mentioned it earlier, the universe is, I think they're ready to snap back because it's getting tired of it as well.And part of this design that the, the we have been put into with our lives in this pathway that we've been given from birth and through eons and through history, when it comes to wellness, that illusion runs even deeper, I think. And, and I had to fight that with myself.It was kind of a light of wellness, I think, because I was told, like me, I was told, you're going to be in a wheelchair for the rest of your life, and that's where you're going to be.And you're going to be on this disability, you're going to be that, you're going to be this, you're going to need nurses, you're going to need this, you're going to have that. And I had to make a concerted choice. Now, I'll be honest with you.I sat there for four years feeling sorry for myself and angry and pissed off and everything else. My kids are the ones that said, hey, get off your butt and you can do this kind of a thing. But I, I got off of the nine drugs they had me on.I worked my way out of a wheelchair, learned how to walk again. I've had eight operations. Yes.While I was having this operation, they tried to stuff me full of drugs, which I didn't do, which allowed me to heal six weeks on average, quicker, faster than the normal individual and so forth. And even in spite of all of that, we were hit with a mountain of medical bills, in spite of having insurance. So I.Can we delve a little on that direction as well?

Absolutely.And you know, what's interesting is, you know, people and you know, I'm not pointing fingers because, you know, I'm, I experience it as well, you know, when everything revolves around money and capital and money flows through these systems. And you, and you are kind of working or you're kind of a cog in that wheel.You don't necessarily think that your orientation or your relationship with those systems is strange, right? So like a doctor, for example, you know, they're treating you, but they're also running a business, right?They know that if they prescribe X amount of medication to get you on some regimen and they have some sales rep from the pharmaceutical, you know, like they're part of an ecosystem now. It's not that they're, that they're doing anything necessarily consciously wrong, but they know that it's part of some model.So, you know, again, right there, if we. Stop right there, if, if you have a healthcare professional who is looking at you as, you know, a somebody to kind of make money off of, right?There's, there's a problem if they're aware of another methodology or treatment. Now what's the problem is that it's not just about, you know, a doctor intentionally trying to make money.It's also their, the way that they've been taught the, the, the education of, of, of doctors and physicians and healthcare practitioners. They, they don't necessarily realize it. Actually many do. But it's still kind of taken as gospel or as divine.You know, when they're brought up through this, you know, allopathic approach to healthcare, where in truth, medication is meant to suppress symptoms. No pharmaceutical company that I don't know if has cured a disease, I mean, think about it, that's not the business they're in. Right?

But they're making millions upon billions of dollars.

Exactly.

With cancer, right?

As great as Pfizer is, you know, what disease advocated, right? I mean, it's the biggest scam, you know, it's one of the biggest scams. So. And doctors are plugged into an indoctrinated system of medical treatment.Now if we go back and peer back a layer on this healthcare system, we can point to a couple great industrial capitalists who are revered as, you know, the great pioneers of the industrial revolution, right?You know, guys like Rockefeller, Carnegie, who through the, through the Flexer Report, basically, you know, condemned all holistic treatments, basically said that anything natural was quackery, I think was the, was the verbiage they used. And they funded medical schools and they pushed their petroleum back, pharmaceuticals and yada, yada, yada.So again, it's important for people to care about, you know, to think about origin story, to think about, you know, well, why is this not working for me. What, what was going on, what started this, right? And this is where, where the individual in many ways takes back power.And that's a big part of what I'm trying to do.I'm trying to, you know, give people perspective, give people knowledge and give people a whole understanding of their existence in many ways to regain sovereignty, to empower, to look critically and not just go with the flow and not just accept. Right. The state of the union, if you will. Right.So, you know, and what's crazy is that when you look at a lot of these holistic approaches that were in place before the, you know, let's say 1920s, if you will, they were remarkably effective.A lot of health, you know, a lot of plant based holistic medicine, you know, medicines, everything from, you know, frequency based healing to plant based medicine, you know, food was looked at in many ways as kind of a medicine. It was looked at as part of taking care of your body. Today, half of people's diets are not even, shouldn't be considered food.They're ultra processed, they're packed with, you know, chemicals that are, that shouldn't be consumed in the human body. Artificial. This, you know, some of them are, some of them are, you know, have shown, I've been shown to cause cancer. Producers laden with pesticides.This is just part of the industrial model. We must conform and contort to the industrial model. This is, you know, medicine isn't, doesn't get away from it.And you know, if we go down to, even on the, you know, kind of bureaucratic level, look at the revolving door of the fda, look at how the fda, you know, allowed artificial flavoring in our foods that were banned from cosmetic products in the 80s. I mean, it's, it's crazy, right? Crazy. And everybody turns a blind eye. Nobody cares.And they wonder why there's rampant autoimmune disease and rampant cancer, rampant this and rampant that. Well, guess what? It's because.It's not because you, you know, whatever they say, because you didn't do this or you did, it's because it's because when you have a system that is rotten at its core, it touches all aspects of life. And it may not have always, but, but today it certainly does.And I think people, you know, people through TikTok, through podcasts, through Instagram, YouTube, you know, people are waking up and they're saying, what, you know, what the heck?I didn't mean to kind of go off on a tangent there, but we can talk more about, about, about the medical industry, but it's, it's, it's a sacred institution that should be protected by government, not used by government and lobbyists. Same with education in the call in the college. Supposed to be there to protect us.

I think, I think capitalism has hijacked our understanding of health and healing.

Absolutely. And capitalism, it doesn't have to be operating in this form. This is, this is corrupt capitalism at its finest. Absolutely.And this, and also, this isn't really, this isn't even a conversation about capitalism versus socialism. That what we're talking about here runs deeper than that. It's an undercurrent to this.

Well, you know, it's interesting. I think that, you know, personally, I mean, you deal in this from a different perspective. You, at least you have.Do you think that we have consequences of treating wellness as a commodity?Because I think even as a patient and the stuff that I've gone through and the stuff my family's gone through, our daughter has some issues that she's dealing with here. And I think they treat wellness as a commodity. It's not, let's fix you. Let us get you well.Let's make a better, productive individual out of you, a very positive life for you by treating you and helping you to heal. It's treated more as a commodity.

Absolutely. I mean, we do great, Our initiative does great treating trauma.It is horrible at treating illness and disease and in many ways intentionally doesn't cure, Obviously doesn't cure. And it perpetuates their problems. Let me think about this for a second.I don't know if you're familiar with the, with the, you know, with the, the Bayer Monsanto relationship. But, but you have, I mean, how crazy is this?You have a, you have a company that is spraying pesticides, creating cancer, and then to streamline an industry, they, they merge with a company that has like, effective cancer treatments that they're pesticide products create. I mean, it's beautiful from a business model standpoint, but it's, but it shows, but it shows how rotten and corrupt a model is.And, and this, by the way, this is looked at as from a, you know, from a shareholder perspective as good business. Right. This is. And, and when you have, again, you have these. Yeah, let's kind of take a step back.We can talk about, you know, guys like Milton Friedman. But, but we have a model that is well known where the shareholder is what matters to a corporation. Nothing else was considered.Well, what is that saying? Where is the responsibility there?If the responsibility of a corporation is just to make money for the shareholder There is something inherently wrong with our system. Period, End of story right there.We have put together unconsciously, while we've been asleep, a mechanized society that extracts from the human life experience. And people, you know, people.Kind of, a lot of people will default to a kind of victim mentality where, you know, it's these shadowy figures behind a, you know, twitching their mustaches with a cigar or whatever it is, or some satanic rituals. Like. Yeah, there are people who might be part of that, but it's. Don't be so, you know, don't be so generous with your conspiracy theories.This has been. This has been a evolution or a DM or a devolution over a long period of time. It was a long time to get here.And it all started with putting institutions, Institutions above. Above the human beings.

Yeah, I agree with that.CBF Sunday Morning had a really brilliant episode a couple of weeks ago where they were talking about that in specific, with regard to kidney failure. And if people going in for kidney treatments and their kidneys were failing because of.Due to society, they had kidney failure due to the pesticides and all the rest of the crap. And then the same companies were then charging for the treatments and the dialysis and everything else. And they're charging exorbitant amount of.Amount of money for this.They had some doctors on that they interviewed as well as patients, but they had doctors on at the interview that walked away from it going, I can't do this anymore because it's obviously corrupt. They. They openly admitted the system is corrupt. You have these people creating the problem, and then you have them fix.Creating the cure or the alleged cure, and they're making money on both sides of it, you know, and they want you to perpetually be in the system, perpetually until you die.

And by the way, what's interesting is that because we are kind of. There's this real ecosystem, right?And because we were bound by, in many ways, kind of like these universal laws, people don't realize how they work and how they. Right, but there are only certain things that we can do, right?There's only certain ways to generate revenue or to expand or unless it's some kind of, like, new innovation. But one of the.One of the biggest methods is this is through this thing called the Agelian dialectic, which is basically you create chaos, or rather you create order through forced chaos, right? This is like one of the biggest prevailing principle. We do this on a global kind of scale with, you know, these kind of Western hegemonic pursuits.We do this with corporations, we do this in the medical industry. You know, again, it's, it's. We create the problem and then come up with a solution. It's a brilliant, again, strategy.It's completely toxic and it's, it's not the way that we should be, you know, molding society. But people, again, when you're indoctrinated to think this way, when you look at yourself this way and you see yourself this way, why.Why wouldn't you be operating with, with that consciousness?The every, the people who are being impacted negatively are, and don't realize this are just as victimized as those who are operating and wielding power. It's just, it's just manifesting itself in a different way. They're just as disconnected, they're just as unaware.They think that they're just ascending in there, but they're not living a whole life. They're not living in symbiosis with themselves.

You know, it, it's interesting. I've, I've.You've mentioned sovereignty several times and the fact that we, you know, overall, we may think of sovereignty as a country or, you know, and even a state or some kind of a formation of sovereignty against. Within themselves. But you speak of it as we each have an inner sovereignty ourself, Correct?

Absolutely.

And, you know, in a world of external control, how, how do we kind of tap into that and understand what. That we have options that we can. Because, I mean, there's so much. We could talk for two hours. Aaron. It, it's. Or more.

There's a lot, it's a lot here. I've got like, I've got a. Michael, I've got a book coming out called the Fifth Evolution. Hopefully it's going to come out in September.And I dive into a lot of this stuff. It's actually, it's. It's quite different from my podcasts in that I dive into kind of like the multiple, you know, levels of, of these topics.And again, it's about, it's about our misunderstanding of the fundamental nature of our existence. This idea of sovereignty. Right. Like, in truth, sovereignty is about, you know, it's about rebalancing yourself so that you can exist in society.You can exist within these systems, but the systems don't control you. You control yourself within the systems. You regain sovereignty from them. You aren't moved by them. You can, you can balance yourself. You can, you can.You have control of your emotions, your thoughts. You aren't enslaved to them. You.Right, so it's, it's about a reorientation and it's about taking this reorientation and you know, coming back, embodying this and coming back into the world.And a lot of the spiritual movements, which I have a problem with is they kind of like they, they bypass and they take you outside of kind of this reality, which is really not what true awakening and spirituality is about, nor. Nor is what it's really ever been about. And it's. I think it's a kind of. I think it's kind of in many ways just as bad as being pushed kind of this.To this like, mass masculine paradigm. It's. You're just as easily, you know, thrown out of. Out of, out of, you know, off balance and out of the real world. Right.That, that we all occupy so oftentimes. And I think in general, people feel like they don't have power, that they don't have control, and they don't understand what's going on.Well, it starts with, in many ways it starts with consciousness. It starts with the way that they enter the world, the way that they inhabit their. Their body, the way that they experience reality. Right.If you're constantly reacting, if you're, if you, if you're going for dopamine hits all the time, if you're, you know, taking down sugar, if you're scrolling through TikTok, you know, TikTok for hours, if you're, you know, reactive, if you're focusing constantly on, on the, on your body and on your diet and, well, your, Your attention is diverted outward. You're never, you're never looking inside, right? So what. It's. Because people have been cut off from the internal.And what you'll find is when you reorient and when you look internally and you find ways to, you know, touch that part of you, you experience in many ways a complete different reality. You're. You shed your ego. You aren't worried about what other people think. You aren't reactive. You aren't operating out of habit. You know, it's. It's.This isn't a kind of like outlandish conversation. It's. It's actually what takes place. Talk to me and the thousands of other people who kind of, you know, embody this, this reality. Right.So these are kind of small side notes, but, but, you know, things like, you know, meditative practices, breath work, you know, having like, small rituals where at night you, I don't know, you light a candle and you, you know, write something in a journal and you sound kind of like superficial. But the, these are the beginning steps.To kind of reorienting and, and finding that sacred part of you that's been, you know, that's been severed from your consciousness. It's, it's really. It's really about creating a new way of life from the outside so that you can reorient internally.Because our outside is connected to our inside, right? It's like. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of obvious.

Well, I mean, I think we have an opportunity for an awakening and I think within ourselves, you know, and you touched on a little bit of like the, the meditations and the way we eat and the way we approach things from those regards and what we can do. How can ancient wisdom and metaphysics help us reclaim our truth?I have friends of mine that are Native American, and I follow both Native American and an Asian philosophy in regard to our connection to the universe, our connection to nature, our connection to each other in regard to all of that. So I, My. Our community understands that I kind of approach life from that perspective now. But can you share with us how we.How we can take some of that ancient wisdom and how metaphysics helps us reclaim it?

Yeah, sure. You know, what I'll kind of say is that I think that before that, about kind of like taking that wisdom, because there's a lot. There's a lot there.But very quickly, you know, if you look at the kind of typical relationship that people have to spirituality, it's. It's through institutional religion, right? And what, you know, there's been. I kind of.I touched on this briefly at the beginning, but what institutional religion did for us. But one of the biggest things they produce is the hierarchical structure of. Out of everything of society, right? You have. They took.They took, you know, God. They put it above the, above the human. They took the earth. They put that, they put that up, you know, beneath the human, right? It was really.It was really kind of canonized. It was this, this. This understanding of structure.And upon institutionalization, you know, let's look at the relationship that these institutions created with, with individuals and with a religion.People look to an institution, an intermediary third party, to access a force, source that has been in them all along that is part of the very fiber of their being. I mean, it's a perverted kind of methodology. Now people will say, oh, you know, I can touch the teachings of Jesus. And it's not.It's true, there is truth to a lot of these, these teachings. And. But it's one thing to understand them and believe in what he's saying. It's another thing to embody them.And embodiment doesn't take place on an intellectual level. Your body doesn't respond to words that are read other than maybe, you know, your chills.To really absorb these, these metaphorical conversations that we see in the Bible. It's about transcending that plane. And, and that plane of transcendence was severed from human consciousness through religious institutions.Just a fact. I mean, very kind of common sense thinking here.When you have a, when you have the Roman Empire, which was a bloodthirsty, conquering empire, take over a belief system like Christianity, why would people think that it was kind of about, you know, salvation and communion and you know, I don't know, like light, airy things. It just, it's so strange to me that that would be the kind of baseline, foundational understanding of, of what this religion is really about.And again, when you go back and you see that it was really a control mechanism and it again, the hierarchy, the hierarchical structure became the blueprint for our modern institutions and the, the age of enlightenment after that, which you know, further kind of severed the human being from the sacred.Where we were told to believe that we were just material beings, where you know, you had like Descartes, you know, the, the mind is separate from the body. You had Newton with the, you know, with the, with the Newtonian concept of the material world.It took, it further removed us from our true connection and with source, the connection that exists inside of all of us. So that wasn't as brief as I wanted to be.But when you look at a lot of the metaphysics and if we take it back to ancient knowledge, any ancient wisdom teachings and you look at the understanding that we are now learning about in, you know, through modern science, through modern physics, the quantum realm that this facade that we, that we occupy, that the physical body is just an illusion at our fundamental core. We are just energy, we are vibration, we are, we are occupying a field.This, even still, even when I say this to you sounds kind of far fetched and outlandish, right? Because I'm touching my, my hand and my right, my duck. So it's so hard to access.But, but in truth, what these metaphysical teachings tell you is that, you know, that we are all vibration, that there is a sacred reciprocity, the universe operates in balance.And when you incorporate and you understand that you are not separate from God, you are not separate from Source, that you are again a part of Source experiencing itself, that those, that those sacred laws, universal laws apply to you as well, you have, you are Reconnecting to something far greater. Right? You are reconnecting to. You are aligning yourself with. With the most powerful force in the universe. I mean, how empowering is that?And how much, how much are you willing to bet on that universal force working out for you? Well, you know, let's. Let's kind of make this metaphysical conversation more practical.When we contort ourselves to accommodate these systems, when we take on careers that we think will, you know, generate money, but that will never nourish us. We find ourselves in situation that we're in today where we, where we, again, work for money, where we submit, where we just kind of.We don't have the time. We're so exhausted, we don't have time to think critically or go along with it. We just kind of like, you just kind of bleed into it, right?What, what isn't really discussed is, you know, if you were to, quote, unquote, align yourself with these universal forces, with this order, with the sacred balance within you like we talked about, and you push forth with your ambition, and you push forth what really drives you. And you then walk back into the economy, and then you are. You're going to be successful because you're being true to yourself.You are embodying truth. You are embodying sacred reciprocity. You are embodying balance. You're. You're feeding into a higher vibrational field. You, you.If you allow yourself to realize that you are bigger than what you think you are, and you get to that with metaphysics, it reorients and it gives you a whole new perspective on your life. And it's. It's remarkable because if you don't look at your life that way, in many ways, you're living a deluded reality.You're living a delusional reality. You're not living in the actual reality. It seems fringe and it seems strange. And it's like, you know, what is this guy talking about?Or, you know, who are these people talking about all the spiritual stuff? Like, obviously everybody kind of has their way of digesting this, and a lot of stuff out there isn't necessarily accurate or good in my opinion.But at its core, it's all touching on the same message. And it's through this orientation, it's through this integration, it's through this embodiment that we experience what life should be about.Not, I'm not trying to be dogmatic, but it's. It's living as a whole person and reorienting your life in that direction. And, you know, again, you can Bet on it.It's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna change the quality of your life.

You know, it, it's, it's a brilliant, A brilliant explanation of how we can find ourselves and reconnect with, with source. And it also, in addition to that, the bonuses. It's a brilliant explanation as to why I am no longer a partisan Catholic.So next time somebody asked me why.

I'm gonna look, it's, look, it's, it's. It's not about renounce. It's not about renouncing religion, but it's about, it's about looking at religion, you know, for what it is. The.There's nothing wrong with religion, but it's about your relationship with it.It's about looking, looking past the periphery, you know, going, going to, going to church or temple or a mosque robotically and, you know, kind of like going on your phone during the prayer, like, you know, kind of like shaking the priest's hand at the end. Like, that's not spirituality. It's going through the motion. Right? And this is, but this is the, this is part of this disembodied nature.It's part of this orientation that we have with the world. And people need to understand that they are operating on multiple planes of experience.They are operating through their emotions, through their thoughts, through their physical touch. When you communicate with somebody, you're exchanging energy, right?So not everyone's going to get there in their life, but if they can, if they can try to reorient, if they can try to think of themselves as what they really are, which is part of this universal consciousness that they are impacting with everything that they do, it's going to, it's going to change things.

I will tell you, from a personal perspective, shaking the hand of a priest and touching the universe in that regard is a profound statement within my soul that can never be replaced. It was hugely significant in regard to my outlook on life in totality.

That's great. So, yeah, you're lucky to have experience. Most people don't, don't even get that opportunity.

I'm grateful for where I am in my life at this point. I am. And the fact that I've had, you know, one more thing before you go has been.Even the injuries that I went through and me having to redefine my purpose has opened up a new ideal that I'm grateful for. Because although, you know, I loved being a cop, I was a sergeant, I was going to be a lieutenant. I was going up the line.That was my at the time, that was my purpose. And then when I found this, conversations like what we're having across the world, it changed my perspective and gave me an education.It allowed me to open up my soul and open up my eyes and my heart and to understand that there is more to life and that we just have to reach for it and we have to make that choice. And so, yes, that's why I appreciate this. Well, let's talk about this.What did your time on Wall street teach you about the power of illusion or power and illusion? I guess a little bit of both.I know they think we've touched upon it throughout the conversation, but did you get a deeper understanding of the illusion that we as humans are presented with in regard to life and how it should be?

Yeah, absolutely. I think that one of the, kind of.One of the main things that I experienced was really about the illusion of identity and how we kind of, you know, our relationship with ourselves, which kind of sounds crazy, but, you know, you. Especially in kind of a job like I had on Wall street and, and many other people, this isn't unique to me. You know, people identify with.With their job. People identify with the amount of money they have. People identify with their material goods. People identify with status.This is a superficial understanding of who they are. And to go deeper, I mean, this is kind of obvious when you think about it. People don't. People don't live their life that way.People don't think of themselves that way. They're. They're so kind of blinded by this externalized sense of reality, this externalized version of himself.And in truth, if you go a little bit deeper, you are not. You're not really your. Your emotions. You're not really your thoughts. You experience. You experience them, you experience both, but you're.You're even something deeper than that to get really. To get really kind of metaphysical here. And what I found was that I was, you know, in many ways identifying with my job.I was solely living to accumulate money. I was solely focused on ambition. I was solely focused on this superficial identity that I didn't even look at it.Superficial because everybody around me was living that way. The things that I was focusing on, my orientation to other people, our relationships were suffering.I wasn't, you know, and what I found was that I kind of. I kind of. This was kind of a big part of where, you know, my kind of recent push where I. Where I kind of.I've been on this journey for a while, but I. I didn't. I wasn't really active until I actually looked into the kind of going. Going out like this about five years ago and I, it.It almost seemed like the right time. And I didn't, I waited because it didn't seem like we were quite there yet. And you know, about a year ago or so I said, you know, this is.I think, I think we're ready for this. I think that we're. There's been a lot of revelation and I think this is a good time to jump out into it. And I almost lost my train of thought there.But what I will say is that I was living this kind of misunderstood sense of self, this misunderstood identity, and I found that I wasn't being satiate. I wasn't happy. And I thought to myself, look, I put myself through such hard work and struggle and. But I just, I don't care. It's, it's, it's.It's never really driven me as it should. You know, it's like it shouldn't have driven me. You know, what's going on here? What am I missing? Right? And it's.And I kind of realized, I knew it in a more of a superficial fashion, in more of a kind of intellectual fashion.But it wasn't until I immersed myself deeper that I realized that, you know, that we are all in many ways victims to this system, the systemization of. Of our reality.And it bleeds into our identity and it creates a illusory constructs, you know, where, you know, with individual identity, even with, even with the way that we look at things in our lives. I mean, we worship things that we think will satiate us or that we think will help us or that we think are good for us, but they're just not.And this idea of illusion transcends that even more. If you look at, let's look at kind of economy, for example. If you look at things like the capitalist economy or the global economy, we.Let's look at oil, for example. We have, you know, we've got eight countries that, that control 80% or we've got a group of countries that control 80% of the.The world's supply of oil. Oil is prevalent all over the world. The price of oil is not dictated by supply, demand, economics.It's dictated by the guys who control most of the supply, right? So, so the, the price of things is, is an illusion. The, Much of the, the. The political stage, you know, it's illusion. It's not. These are.There's this kind of like acting going on. The, the value of our dollar is Is not even real. We, we operate. We, we. The way that banks lend us money isn't real. Right. It's.People think, oh, they put money into a savings account and then a bank can lend off of that. Not how it works. Yes, there's a fractional banking system of place, but it's, it's even more perverse than that.So, so we live, you know, we live within illusion. And there are. There's so much illusion out there. And in many ways these illusions create a kind of scaffolding for identity.They also create a kind of superficial sense of safety that. And this is a big part of awakening where, where this, these illusions start to kind of fade away. Where, where you realize you're more than your ego.Where you realize that we are all connected. Where you realize that your orientation to the world wasn't the way it should have been because you had a understanding of things.So we live and operate within all of these illusions and they impact our consciousness, they impact our relationship, they impact our orientation in the world. Most people think that these illusions are their reality, but in truth they're just not.And it's part of this sort of corrosive, you know, energy that. Or structure that we, that we occupy and that we, that we live within.

Yeah, I think that we, once we have the opportunity, we make a choice to be able to understand that we have the freedom to make a. We have a. Let me try that in a cohesive thought.Once we realize that there's more to life and that we have the opportunity to be awakened and to grasp that and get a better understanding of the universe and what it is, how it is and how we fit within it. I think that it gives us a hope to say that we can reinvent ourselves. We can re. Educate ourselves.I think we can build ourselves in a different modality to, to know that we are operating here on this earth for ourselves and those around us, not necessarily for corporate, you know, structure or a capitalist structure. I mean, we all need money, we all need to function and so forth. But you, you, you, you can make it so you're not governed by it so much. I think.

Exactly. That's exactly right.Again, it's these types of changes that will happen because again, good luck, overriding the divine operating system and divine program. But these things start with seeds. The real evolution of consciousness, the real revolution. You know the saying, the revolution will not be televised.Right. Well, it's because the real revolution is not a theater where the chairs are moved around.It takes place within the human Soul, within the human consciousness.And just like, I mean, you see what happened with, with COVID If we can, all right, over time, through awakening, through suffering, through, you know, feeling that something's off through a rewaring, through whatever means it happens. If we can come to these realizations, the world will change. These systems are not set up in these structures that are never changeable.We created them and we can change them and we can move into a new reality through the way that we erect these systems. This is not a conversation around Democrat, Republican, capitalism, socialism. All of these systems, all these parties, they.If they are inherently corrupt and they're not, and they don't have the proper orientation to, you know, a sacred balance of respect of, you know, the feminine and the masculine energy, however you want to understand it, care, soul and also ambition, then we fall down the same, you know, down. Down the same path of, you know, the schism and the suffering, just. It's just inevitable.

Do you think the corruptness has gone past a point of correction?

I think that another illusion that we operate under is that we are not powerful. I think that this, especially this country, the Constitution was written so that the people were actually empowered.The second Amendment was drafted so that. Not so that we could go hunting, it was so that we had a militia that could stand up against the tyrannical government.So I'm not saying to grab your rifle, but what I'm saying is that there was a reason for that. And we are operating under in many ways, a hidden tyrannical structure where, where money is God, where, where we bend the money.The fact that, you know, the political, the political job now is really about kind of like going up there and, you know, you're focused on getting elected and you're focused on your campaign financing, your focus on, you know, appealing to lobbies, and you're focused. I mean, this is the job these don't concern for. There's no stewardship. It's self service, right? So.So it's about, it's about, you know, restructuring. And what's remarkable, you know, Democrat or Republican, you can't deny that this administration through, through doge exposure, exposed.I mean, just rampant corruption on both sides of the party, right? And you see this still with these NGOs that, that wield power, that are giving kickbacks. It exposed such a disgusting underbelly.We have $36 trillion in debt. We're spending money like it's going out of style. So there are so many things that we can do.Very, you know, simple things really, that we can put into place. This is, this isn't a, this isn't a system that requires a complete destabilization. Just not, it's, it's malleable.And it's, we just have to get people to realize that they have power. They can talk to their neighbors, they can talk to their friends. They can care about these topics. They can call their state senator.They can get, they get organized. They can not through protest, but through like, you know, go to a, go to a school book, go to, go to a town hall meeting.I mean, these are things that people can do.

Yeah, I agree. And you're right, it's on all sides because I can tell you both from.Well, we all know that a lot of these individuals that get elected go in a poor, poor person and come out a millionaire.

And I mean, the fact that, I mean, it's, and you look at the trading activity, I like Nancy Pelosi specifically. It's, it's, it's black and white, textbook insider trading. There's no other way to look at it.

Yeah, that's, and that's across the board.

That's across the board, people. Absolutely. And these people are. Yeah, this is on both, both sides of the, of the line. These people are immune to prosecution.These people are not part of, they're not held accountable. This needs, somebody needs to, A leader needs to step up.A Justice Department needs to step up and put, push aside the power structure and say, you know what justice is, what's important.

Exactly.

People can't operate through this corrupt system. I don't care. It doesn't matter what the result will be. They had. Somebody has to stand up.And by the way, if you, if you are indoctrinating these systems, you believe that you are this, you know that you should orient your life this way. Why would you do anything else you don't have, like, it's, you're, this is how you survive. Right. So this is, this needs to happen.And again, it's, it's only going to say one person to do something and then the thing kind of really starts getting chipped away.

Hopefully it starts moving it forward. Well, now we're running out of time, so how can somebody get. Fine, you got a wonderful podcast. Everybody needs to come listen to it.How can they get in touch with you? How can they find your podcast and more about you?

Yeah, so you can find my podcast I'm streaming across, you know, all major platforms. The Evolved podcast with Aaron Scott. I have a book coming out called the Fifth Evolution.Hoping to get it out again beginning to, to mid September, which I'm very excited about. And yeah, I've got some links on my, on my website, the AaronScott.com you can reach out to me. You can get in touch with me.Uh, yeah, so that's, that's, that's kind of my shameless promo there.

Well, I'll make sure that there's links in the show notes for everybody so they can just hit that and follow the link right directly to you when the book comes out. I'll make sure there's a link to it as well put into the show notes so that everybody can kind of reach out for that as in addition.Aaron, it's been a great conversation. I know we, I could keep talking, but we'll just have to have.

For a while. We'll have another one. I'll have to come back. I'll have to come back with some, with some dry powder. Exactly.

We'll come back with another one. But in the meantime, thank you, you know, thank you very much for being here. Do. This is one more thing before you go.Any words of wisdom for anybody wanting to kind of start their pathway to awakening?

Oh, you know, I would say just in general, you know, do things that, that push you a little bit. You know, do things that break habits, do things that, you know, make you, that force you to reorient. Try something that you haven't done before.You know, just, just start touching that kind of progress periphery and see where it takes you.Because if you don't have curiosity, if you're not willing to try something new that might benefit you, you're just going to be running the same, the same loops, the same habits, and you're not going to get any different results. It's, it's, it's worth the risk. That's, that's my, that's my two cents.

That's amazing words of wisdom. Thank you very much for sharing those, Aaron, once again. Thank you. I appreciate you very much. Appreciate what you're doing to the world.Keep doing it.

We're going to keep shedding the, shedding the light and carrying the flame here, Michael.

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